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Victor Nolton & Carl S. Johansen: May 18th, 2004
Ven:I read somewhere that you started working for Praga Khan in 1994. What did you do before 1994?
Carl:I started in the early 80's with The Neon Judgement and worked sort of "fulltime" with them, very much the same way I work with Praga today; as a producer, sometimes co-writer, studio-engineer, front-of-house engineer on the tours, but also designing the stage-shows, doing some of the management etc... In '88 I set up my own studio in the building of Play it again, Sam!, and worked with many of the labels' bands, such as ý;GRUMH, the Cassandra Complex, the Weathermen, Trisomie 21, Minimal Man and others...

Ven:Praga's adventures seem to have started around 1988, How exact did you meet Praga Khan?
Carl:Belgium is a small country, everyone knows each other, especially if you're working in the same music style. I know Praga since the very beginning, he was one of the owners of Antler Records, the label that released the Neon Judgement's first single "Factory Walk".

Ven: Before you started working with Praga Khan/Lords of Acid/MNO stuff, were you a fan yourself? Did you go out and buy the music everytime a new release came out? What was your first album of any of the MNO projects you bought?
Carl:I'm not a fan of any band, I do have respect for many artists. I never buy music.

Ven:As with many people in Lords of Acid/Praga Khan history, everyone has stage names. Yours is the famous Carl S. Johansen, how did this name come about?
Carl:Carl S. Johansen is my real name. Ludo is too.

Ven:In all of the years you've been involved in music, is there anything that you haven't done and would like to? For instance, I remember from talking to you in the past that you were really excited about working on the Young Primitives/Not Strictly Rubens projects.
Carl:Sure there's one thing I haven't done, but I'm doing it right now. We're creating "The Next Dimension", and are working on it since more than a year now. It's gonna be the most fabulous show Praga Khan has ever done.

Ven:With technology advancing the way it is, I notice you use Macs (good choice). What kind of equipment did you use back in the 90's to make music? (I think I saw an Atari 1024 ST in the attic studio one time).
Carl:Yep, had Atari for many years, and Commodore 64 before that. On the Macs we use Cubase, Logic and Protools these days.

Ven:Aside from working with Praga and various other groups, personally what are a few of your favorite groups (perhaps outside of the techno,electric genre)?
Carl:As I said, I don't really have favorite groups. Occasionally there might be an album or song that I really like. Madonna's "Ray of Light" is the perfect example.

Ven:If you were given a 2 week paid vacation and could go anywhere in the world, where would you go?
Carl:I'd come and visit you, Ven

Ven:Are there any aspects of music making or equipment used in music making that you miss now that we have advanced so much?
Carl:Don't really miss anything 'cause we kept all the nicer older gear. We still use a lot of analogue stuff, especially compressors etc. And we kept a lot of the synths, we still use Prophet, ARP, Oberheim synths.

Ven:How many hours a day (roughly) do you spend in thestudio?
Carl:Don't even wanna think about this.

Ven:What would you consider to be your top 3 best produced albums?
Carl:Well, production is one thing, but if the songs, the lyrics, the musician's perfomances aren't there, there's only little to hide with production. Oliver's definately one of the best producers in Belgium or even in Europe, and if I say that Electric Religion and Pragamatic are really well produced, it's also because my favorit Praga songs are on those albums, and Maurice is always the creator of the spine of the songs.

Ven:I know for me there is this feeling I get when I hear Praga's music, and when I see them live or on video, the hair stands up on the back of my neck. How do you feel when you hear and see the music. Is it the same kind of feeling? and when you hear the music you've produced etc, do you get a great feeling of accomplishment?
Carl:Well, I think it's different. Sure, I do like the music, and I do like the people I'm working with, I would have chosen another job a long time ago if I wouldn't. But when you create songs from scratch in the studio, or when you do a live gig, there are so many technical aspects involved that the feeling we get from it, must be different. Fans can just relax and enjoy.

Ven:Out of all the shows of Praga and Lords what would be the 1 show that stands out above the rest?
Carl:Impossible to tell, also because of what I wrote in my previous answer. Sure we've done shows in Werchter or Tokyo for 50.000 or 60.000 fans, that we'll always remember. But we've done such brilliant tours with Lords of Acid in the States (like Sextacy Ball in '95) and with Lords and Praga later. Impossible to pick out 1...

Ven:Being a man of music is there any group or artist out there, that if given the chance, you would like to meet (assuming they are still alive)?
Carl:Not really, no...

Ven:If you could change 1 aspect of Praga or Lords, what would it be?
Carl:With Electric Religion just out, and The Next Dimension on the tracks, I don't think we should change a lot...

Ven:You are very talented in what you do, did you take any college type courses, self taught, or just a natural genius in what you do?
Carl:Oh, Ven, please....

Ven:With Electric Religion out in Europe, and I am hoping soon in the US, do you think this will drive Praga Khan over the top?
Carl:Well, it's definately Praga Khan's best album ever. But the way music has evolved, making a brilliant album is one thing, and perhaps the only thing we musicians can do. It is now in the hands of so many business people, record companies, promo guys etc. Let's hope for the best.

Ven:Do you ever think Praga Khan's music will grow so big that eventually Lords of Acid music will cease to be worked on?
Carl:I honestly have the feeling we'll make another Lords album. Can't yet tell when though...

Ven:Last question.. Was this interview painful? :)
Carl:What do you think?
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